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I want to answer your questions and maybe dispel some of the rumors about card counting out there (especially with all the hype from the movie "21"). There are.


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Practice counting those while playing proper Basic Strategy. Here, you should ignore each player's first card and instead count them two-at-a-time as each.


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Practice counting those while playing proper Basic Strategy. Here, you should ignore each player's first card and instead count them two-at-a-time as each.


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The More Serious Parts of Card Counting: Blackjack, when basic strategy is used​, provides the user with a % return (ie. bet in the long term, expect to.


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Over the summer i've taken on card counting and made several trips to the casino and won money. I use the basic Hi-lo system with an Ace side count and seem.


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Casinos must have added like decks and shuffle after reach round making card counting useless.


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But being down that much and then being asked to leave is pretty fucking insulting. I had been playing at the same table for maybe five hours when this happened in the middle of the day during the week. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. He then identified himself and asked if I had a players card I don't , then he asked for my license. And if I do, I always step away from the table. Plain clothed guy, didn't realize he worked for the casino so I turned back around. Still don't know what I did to make them think I was counting. We never asked a counter to leave, as even good counters could easily lose, and the house has a larger bankroll than anyone looking to count. But one thing that caught my eye was that you mentioned software? Worst case is you spend a few months learning, you figure out it's not for you, no loss no foul. The barrier of entry for many is not the skill required but the necessary bankroll to withstand possible months of losing streaks. And like I said, I was down maybe a thousand. If I was up a lot, I could see how they might think I was counting. And when they asked me to leave the casino for good I asked why again and they would not give me a reason. If they let the CC play and he wins a lot of money, that manager may get in trouble. I've seen people get backed off simply for winning and I guarantee you, these people were not playing with an advantage, but I digress. When I asked them why I was not allowed to play blackjack anymore they wouldn't give me a reason. The casino manager at my first place told a guy who was very clearly not counting, she thought he was that he could play the 6 deck game but not the double deck game Oftentimes, dealers don't know what the hell is going on either. But if he kicks out a potential CC? I know it's supposed to be against the rules, but it's done entirely in your head, so how are they supposed to know? But again, surveillance people aren't the brightest in general. The eye in sky watches to see if you bet size moves up and down with the count, and if they think you are any good at it or not. However, at least at the bigger places and especially those that are part of a chain, they generally do or at least can have quite experienced surveillance operators with quite a lot of resources at their disposal. That isn't to say all surveillance rooms are run like shit, but several are. The tough part is the getting away with it part. But, again, they have to know how to use these resources and be motivated to use them. Is it normal for high level players to count cards while playing? Any competent card counter is going to be able to sniff out another very very very quickly. Card counting is extremely obvious to anyone who knows how to count. Not only that, but I was down maybe a thousand when I got approached. All rights reserved. You are only really guaranteed a profit after hundreds of thousands of hands. It all comes to their tolerance to your play, some places like MGM come down hard and fast while at others it might take you a long time of playing for them to react. I don't generally say much to anyone whether it be the dealer or the other players. My question is pulling it off in a casino. One pit boss knew just about literally ZERO laws regarding anything gambling related That isn't to say everyone inside the pit is a total retard as there are some keyword: SOME employees who have a brain in their heads and know what to do, what to look for, and overall do their job well. All that being said, the actual act of counting is incredibly easy. Log in or sign up in seconds.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} Maybe if I go to casinos i'll just limit myself to a certain amount of winnings before I start 'intentionally losing' or at least, playing 'poorly' in order to throw them off my scent a bit. Perhaps play a less aggressive spread to keep a lower profile but again it all depends where you play. Basic Strategy Calculator. I dealt blackjack and craps for a few years and it's just absurd the stuff some of these people come up with. So I cashed out and then I decided to just watch others play blackjack. MGM will kick you out if they suspect anything. Even so, card counting was an every-so-often thing. They're paid pretty shittily and it doesn't help that they don't generate revenue for the casino, so they oftentimes aren't even given the "proper" resources they "need" to do their jobs at a high level. They aren't these super fancy smart guys. And yes, it is still a viable way to earn an income today. I googled black jack card counting software and found some options. Card counting is relatively easy. Do they basically just kick out anyone who starts winning too often? Not even 3 minutes later another guy came over, IDed themselves as a casino manager and that I was being asked to leave the casino and not come back. I have never been backed off there or anywhere else previously. Even if they can't determine if you're a counter or not, they may back you off anyway. How hard is it to count cards in a casino? Now, i'm not talking about the math side of things. The reason more people don't do it is because in the short term you can lose thousands of dollars even with perfect counting techniques. Came back, got my ID back and then the original guy told me I wasn't allowed to play blackjack anymore but that I could play any other game in the casino. Where I was, we dealers were instructed to vary our shuffle style to discourage shuffle tracking, and for counters, we were told to provide lesser deck penetration. Do you have to start counting cards and intentionally throwing smaller bets to seem realistic? For a 6-deck shoe, in one instance, I was told to place the cut card about midway through. When I play I am calm, polite, respectful. I should have just said no, cashed out and left but I still didn't really know what was going on so I gave it to him. But you definitely want to know what you're doing before you go play. Is there any one that you suggest in particular? {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Be aware that posts do not always involve card counting and that general gambling discussion is welcome. So, I think it's something i'll do-- but I don't think it's something i'll obsess with. Also it looks more natural that way. I just sit there and play cards. This is the only MGM property I have ever played at. There's no way else but to go and play, and if you're asked to leave then politely leave and play somewhere else, rinse repeat. Want to join? If you want to make more counting cards than a typical mcdonalds worker, you need to spread your bets or only play hands where you have an advantage. Do this enough times and the casino will probably restrict you in some way, such as limit you from changing your bet or shuffling every time you increase your bet. I have been trying to figure out what I did since it happened. The manager in charge or pit boss may just think it's not worth the risk of letting a potential card counter play. Having software to analyze a card counter means they have to input all the cards that are being dealt into this clumsy program, takes a long time and can be slow, which means at least at times the guy just doesn't do it or he figures he'll just run the tapes back later and not do it live. On top of this, you don't have to be a science rocket to at least suspect someone is counting cards. I have never counted ever. In the break room, I've had others tell me how there's a counter at their table, but after a bit of explanation of how the guy is playing, it's obvious he's not counting, he's just getting lucky while playing terribly. I worked as a dealer for 7 years. Many try, a few succeed, and very few have what it takes to earn a full time income doing it. How do they tend to catch people who are counting cards? I didn't even realize what was happening at first when I got tapped on the shoulder. He'll report it as saying he kicked out an actual card counter and saved the casino a lot of money. I wasn't wonging in and out, I was playing every hand. When I'm in a casino I'm there to enjoy myself and therefore rarely, if ever, take my phone out of my pocket. He gave my ID to someone else and that person was gone for maybe minutes. Like I said, I only won there a couple of times so in the grand scheme of things I probably lost maybe thousand there over a dozen visits. Buy some books, get the software, start practicing and reading, learn the game, and go do it. There are various ways to try to fool the casino into thinking you're not counting My advice -- if this is something you may want to do, then go ahead and do it. Barring you from the casino entirely seems drastic like they thought you were outright cheating or something. Casinos can tell by bet variance and style of play. Casino promotions posts are allowed only as links in text posts with meaningful user content in the body. I can study game theory, statistics and card counting from a variety of sources. Thankfully, the casino employees are generally all completely incompetent at their jobs at just about every level.